All things considered, I think kitchen duty is getting off light. I wonder if he has additional punishment in mind to make the lesson stick (Probably wont work on Quinn, but still). 🙂
well, with mention of a surprise, all hope of teaching a lesson flies out the window, and Quinn would be the last person, I would think, to fly out to catch it…
Given the probably size of the breakfast, they’re going to be washing dishes for a LONG time… and on another note, I think this is the first time we’ve seen Quinn look afraid, or close to it.
Aren’t the boys all fairly new to the Akaelae ‘family’? That could explain why they aren’t being mentioned in the punishment. They can hardly be expected to ‘know better’ at this point.
Unless you’ve washed dishes for a living, don’t consider it getting off light. Just consider washing for a crowd of 400. Then include all of the pots, pans and associated cook ware. Now imagine doing all of them by hand, no powered dish washer to help. Now consider what those cubs fur will be like after hours of sloshing around in all of that dish water. Their likely need a bath after wards!
Washing dishes can be pretty miserable. And I have to agree with MephitMark, you do feel disgusting after being on the job for several hours. Everything is feels greasy. You just feel like you were dosed in oil and left out to try.
Very good guess that they wash all their dishes by hand. 😉 Mounties are VERY energy conscious and dish washers are kind of an item that they see no sense in. They also tend to reject most forms of technology that replace a person. This way, everyone works.
*Sigh* I have so many socialist tendencies. 😀 It looks good on paper … and in stories. 😉
Don’t worry about the cubs though, Cyantians don’t bathe more than once a month to avoid stripping the natural oils out of their fur/hair. Because they don’t sweat like humans, they don’t tend to smell bad. With that in mind, washing dishes is done with nice thick gloves to avoid causing unsightly hair loss/dullness on the hands and arms. 😉
Well having done dishes in place like ships,deserts,mess halls and restaurants, even with gloves the possibilities of getting wet ( especial with 3 young females, one which has a bit of a prankster in her and 2 young boys who are worried about “Syrys” and still a bit uncertain of their place here.) and breakable item ( especial wet dishes and people who “pop” up behind you when you concentrating on not droping said dish), I would say the up coming circus will provide many lesson to many people… “the cubs won’t get into trouble doing dishes” (famous words that Syrys might wish to remeber at another point. But clubs will be clubs.. 🙂
I get the feeling that even Quinn has her calm moments where she doesn’t flit around like a hummingbird on uppers.
Even if she does teleport, the kitchen staff will likely yell at her to stop it as soon as a dish breaks. Heck, they might tell her to NOT teleport for fear of broken dishes.
Tiff: I thought it was rabbit society that had the socialist tendencies. 😉
…they have fusion tech, and space travel(ie, access to cheap and plentiful energy resources). Energy use should be a complete non-issue for anything short of industrial or military applications for the most part.
This is one example of a problem that, while serious iRL, is inherently silly once you have certain technologies avalible. As silly as the old sci-fi cliche of transfering power from life support to engines/weapons/shields and expecting it to do anything but make the room hot, dark, and stuffy.
The social reasons are valid, but rejecting technologies that “replace a person” as a general rule would essentially leave them with horribly inefficient industries producing items at staggering cost compared to their more efficient neighbours – import tariffs and regulations would have to be absolutely brutal to keep them viable.
KHGV Defenestration: Geez man, don’t pick the story apart so much. Ever heard of “suspension of disbelief”? It’s what you have to do when reading ANY fictitious work if you expect to ENJOY the story. Or maybe you’re one of the types that likes to put down other peoples’ creativity to make yourself feel smarter? >.> Just chill out and enjoy the story for what it is!
On a side note: QUINN HAS NEVER LOOKED CUTER! I’d love to see a large version of just that panel, sans speech bubble~! <3
And personally, I think acknowledging the implications of a society’s values would strengthen any world one tries to create – and potentially open up new and unexpected avenues for world, character, and story development. Say, if you want a cause for a low-grade international spat to facilitate a story line, you could have a trade dispute arising over Mounty protectionist policies I suggested above – and as a natural outgrowth of the established social values, it reinforces the impression of the would as a living and dynamic one, while adding diversity and flavour.
Or, hell, just “stuff the adults are in the middle of when the kids barge in on them.” 🙂
I am, in fact, trying to help. And I find this kind of thing interesting, too.
KHGV Defenestration
“This is one example of a problem that, while serious iRL, is inherently silly once you have certain technologies avalible. As silly as the old sci-fi cliche of transfering power from life support to engines/weapons/shields and expecting it to do anything but make the room hot, dark, and stuffy.”
The big energy is not in the HVAC and lights, it is in the artificial gravity unless you are using a centrifuge. If you cut back to say 0.2g you can probably get a quite a bit without making too much of a mess.
Even the AG isn’t much compared to what you need for most fictional FTL or relativistic sublight, and when you’re tossing nukes around, the weapons and shields aren’t going to benefit a whole lot either. Well, assuming the force applied by the AG is within, let’s say, an order of magnitude of the power needed – realistically there isn’t enough energy in the universe to pull it off.
Besides, how often does transferring power from life support affect the gravity in sci-fi? It seems to be on it’s own, much more damage-resistant circuit. 😀
Err and I should probably clarify that some things do use machines, like harvesting crops and such. 😉 But dishwashing does not, because there’s always some cub being punished by being forced to wash dishes – it’s busy work.
Money is just an incredibly useful store of value – it makes little difference(aside from introducing additional inefficiencies) in terms of industrial and economic implications. It’s essentially just a highly specialised non-degrading “universal” trade good – seriously, barter only complicates trade and economics(try replacing cash with company stock, for some idea of the headaches, except you don’t have a currency against which to measure their value, only their own comparative values).
As for machines, I suspected it was something like that(although looking at how many people were put out of work by the industrial revolution, I’m still not quite sure where you draw the line), but as I said, it’s fun to examine the implications.
I imagine they would also place a higher value on hand-crafted items, tho that’d prolly be some measure of luxury item(even if only a slight luxury) compared to more affordable industrialised-production goods – well, either that, or the Mounties hand crafting goods would be comparatively poor, low “wages” keeping their produced goods affordable(tho still not *as* affordable – they still can’t produce nearly as much as quickly), but that seems counter to the atmosphere, even if it would add some nice grit to the flavour.
@Hariman: You never washed dishes for your parents? I know I did, or I got in trouble. O.x Imagine if you dad was an 8 ft. tall predator; yeah, I’d was them dishes.
Frost: It’s complicated. I was actually the best behaved of me and my siblings. I learned from their mistakes and never made them. I’ve made my own, personal, mistakes…
And my Dad was scary enough when he was angry without adding fangs, claws and an extra two feet of height.
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36 thoughts on “05/20/2009 (35 Comments)”
Fang
I wonder who I should feel sorry for, the cubs or the kitchen staff lol
Elithril
All things considered, I think kitchen duty is getting off light. I wonder if he has additional punishment in mind to make the lesson stick (Probably wont work on Quinn, but still). 🙂
Hrliss
well, with mention of a surprise, all hope of teaching a lesson flies out the window, and Quinn would be the last person, I would think, to fly out to catch it…
hariman
Fang: The cubs. Considering that the Hall is a city, there’s gonna be a lotta plates to wash.
The biggest trick is going to be finding something messy or monotonous enough to put a damper on Quinn’s spirits.
KJ Fellie
Methinks I have an inkling as to what the surprise may very well be….
(The extra words my be unnecessary, but they are fun. XD)
(Click my name…)
KHGV Defenestration
Aye – when the nature of the punishment seems disproportionate to the transgression, consider the scale.
Depending on staffing, it could theoretically take [i]hours[/i] to clean up after breakfast.
Although notice he never directly addressed the boys.
lorenith
He probably knows the boys were practically bullied into going.
Ben
He should have known this was coming.
vulpinewarrior
Kitchen work, now this will be interesting.
Zaku
Given the probably size of the breakfast, they’re going to be washing dishes for a LONG time… and on another note, I think this is the first time we’ve seen Quinn look afraid, or close to it.
RNCoyote
Excellent shades of red showing Syrys anger and disappointment.
Jashiat
Hmm, pretty good punishment in a house that size, hopefully they won’t drive the kitchen staff insane lol.
Stray
Even Quinn doesn’t dare disobey Syrys…..
Washing dishes can take a while but I tend to listen to music while I do it. Makes things go a lot faster or at least it seems like it.
I think Syrys was just as surprised that Quinn was injured as everyone else.
Skreyola
Aren’t the boys all fairly new to the Akaelae ‘family’? That could explain why they aren’t being mentioned in the punishment. They can hardly be expected to ‘know better’ at this point.
Tom Redlion
Dishes…. OK. That’s not -TOO- bad. Could definitely take hours to do, though.
MephitMark
Unless you’ve washed dishes for a living, don’t consider it getting off light. Just consider washing for a crowd of 400. Then include all of the pots, pans and associated cook ware. Now imagine doing all of them by hand, no powered dish washer to help. Now consider what those cubs fur will be like after hours of sloshing around in all of that dish water. Their likely need a bath after wards!
Black_Hat
Washing dishes can be pretty miserable. And I have to agree with MephitMark, you do feel disgusting after being on the job for several hours. Everything is feels greasy. You just feel like you were dosed in oil and left out to try.
Tiff
Very good guess that they wash all their dishes by hand. 😉 Mounties are VERY energy conscious and dish washers are kind of an item that they see no sense in. They also tend to reject most forms of technology that replace a person. This way, everyone works.
*Sigh* I have so many socialist tendencies. 😀 It looks good on paper … and in stories. 😉
Tiff
Don’t worry about the cubs though, Cyantians don’t bathe more than once a month to avoid stripping the natural oils out of their fur/hair. Because they don’t sweat like humans, they don’t tend to smell bad. With that in mind, washing dishes is done with nice thick gloves to avoid causing unsightly hair loss/dullness on the hands and arms. 😉
Furvert
Well having done dishes in place like ships,deserts,mess halls and restaurants, even with gloves the possibilities of getting wet ( especial with 3 young females, one which has a bit of a prankster in her and 2 young boys who are worried about “Syrys” and still a bit uncertain of their place here.) and breakable item ( especial wet dishes and people who “pop” up behind you when you concentrating on not droping said dish), I would say the up coming circus will provide many lesson to many people… “the cubs won’t get into trouble doing dishes” (famous words that Syrys might wish to remeber at another point. But clubs will be clubs.. 🙂
Furvert
Opps, that last line was ment to read “cubs will be cubs”.. 🙂
hariman
I get the feeling that even Quinn has her calm moments where she doesn’t flit around like a hummingbird on uppers.
Even if she does teleport, the kitchen staff will likely yell at her to stop it as soon as a dish breaks. Heck, they might tell her to NOT teleport for fear of broken dishes.
Tiff: I thought it was rabbit society that had the socialist tendencies. 😉
KHGV Defenestration
…they have fusion tech, and space travel(ie, access to cheap and plentiful energy resources). Energy use should be a complete non-issue for anything short of industrial or military applications for the most part.
This is one example of a problem that, while serious iRL, is inherently silly once you have certain technologies avalible. As silly as the old sci-fi cliche of transfering power from life support to engines/weapons/shields and expecting it to do anything but make the room hot, dark, and stuffy.
The social reasons are valid, but rejecting technologies that “replace a person” as a general rule would essentially leave them with horribly inefficient industries producing items at staggering cost compared to their more efficient neighbours – import tariffs and regulations would have to be absolutely brutal to keep them viable.
Wolfy
KHGV Defenestration: Geez man, don’t pick the story apart so much. Ever heard of “suspension of disbelief”? It’s what you have to do when reading ANY fictitious work if you expect to ENJOY the story. Or maybe you’re one of the types that likes to put down other peoples’ creativity to make yourself feel smarter? >.> Just chill out and enjoy the story for what it is!
On a side note: QUINN HAS NEVER LOOKED CUTER! I’d love to see a large version of just that panel, sans speech bubble~! <3
Dr.Ownage
Red panels can anyone look terrifying. lol.
KHGV Defenestration
Wolfy: It’s called constructive criticism. 😉
And personally, I think acknowledging the implications of a society’s values would strengthen any world one tries to create – and potentially open up new and unexpected avenues for world, character, and story development. Say, if you want a cause for a low-grade international spat to facilitate a story line, you could have a trade dispute arising over Mounty protectionist policies I suggested above – and as a natural outgrowth of the established social values, it reinforces the impression of the would as a living and dynamic one, while adding diversity and flavour.
Or, hell, just “stuff the adults are in the middle of when the kids barge in on them.” 🙂
I am, in fact, trying to help. And I find this kind of thing interesting, too.
My2cents
KHGV Defenestration
“This is one example of a problem that, while serious iRL, is inherently silly once you have certain technologies avalible. As silly as the old sci-fi cliche of transfering power from life support to engines/weapons/shields and expecting it to do anything but make the room hot, dark, and stuffy.”
The big energy is not in the HVAC and lights, it is in the artificial gravity unless you are using a centrifuge. If you cut back to say 0.2g you can probably get a quite a bit without making too much of a mess.
KHGV Defenestration
Even the AG isn’t much compared to what you need for most fictional FTL or relativistic sublight, and when you’re tossing nukes around, the weapons and shields aren’t going to benefit a whole lot either. Well, assuming the force applied by the AG is within, let’s say, an order of magnitude of the power needed – realistically there isn’t enough energy in the universe to pull it off.
Besides, how often does transferring power from life support affect the gravity in sci-fi? It seems to be on it’s own, much more damage-resistant circuit. 😀
reddragonmaster
Poor cups would not like to be in there shoes having to do the dishes for 400+ mounties and quests Man the horror:p
Tiff
Money isn’t used often in Mounty society, it’s mostly barter and trade. 😀
Tiff
Err and I should probably clarify that some things do use machines, like harvesting crops and such. 😉 But dishwashing does not, because there’s always some cub being punished by being forced to wash dishes – it’s busy work.
hariman
Gaspity gasp! What if there’s a day when all the cubs have behaved? That would mean the parents (or servants) would have to do the dishes!
Although, in Gralen Cragg Hall, that’s probably as likely as the King dyeing his fur purple and polkaing on the palace lawn.
KHGV Defenestration
Money is just an incredibly useful store of value – it makes little difference(aside from introducing additional inefficiencies) in terms of industrial and economic implications. It’s essentially just a highly specialised non-degrading “universal” trade good – seriously, barter only complicates trade and economics(try replacing cash with company stock, for some idea of the headaches, except you don’t have a currency against which to measure their value, only their own comparative values).
As for machines, I suspected it was something like that(although looking at how many people were put out of work by the industrial revolution, I’m still not quite sure where you draw the line), but as I said, it’s fun to examine the implications.
I imagine they would also place a higher value on hand-crafted items, tho that’d prolly be some measure of luxury item(even if only a slight luxury) compared to more affordable industrialised-production goods – well, either that, or the Mounties hand crafting goods would be comparatively poor, low “wages” keeping their produced goods affordable(tho still not *as* affordable – they still can’t produce nearly as much as quickly), but that seems counter to the atmosphere, even if it would add some nice grit to the flavour.
…I could go on for hours, really. 😀
Frost
@Hariman: You never washed dishes for your parents? I know I did, or I got in trouble. O.x Imagine if you dad was an 8 ft. tall predator; yeah, I’d was them dishes.
hariman
Frost: It’s complicated. I was actually the best behaved of me and my siblings. I learned from their mistakes and never made them. I’ve made my own, personal, mistakes…
And my Dad was scary enough when he was angry without adding fangs, claws and an extra two feet of height.
illeatyourself
I have been in a similar situation to that group of cubs. It is NOT fun.
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